Guyspeak and girl talk.....
For the two species of Homo Sapiens, the opposite sex have always been the hot topic in their respective conversations/discussions. Conversations(substancial one of course) are often thought-provoking. A topic was at the back of my mind which i wanted to discuss over. I read an article which enforced me to post this one.
MEN and WOMAN. It's commonly heard that the former regards the latter by "It's difficult to understand woman". m sure the vice versa is true too. Well i am almost utterly aloofed from male counterpart having been a product of girls school, having no own brother and yes do have ' He' cousins but mainly younger ones :( Anyway I have had( in few months) my GK aggravated to some extent :p
A bit astray. All right coming to the point. You yourself eavesdrop on the conversation of men and that of woman. Yes, the two species are poles apart but are their conversations too??? What difference(s) can you spot? I spotted some(from article and from my limited access)...
Men develop closeness through shared interests and activities. They mainly tend to share financial, professional and physical worries with their male peers, talking about sexual issues etc. quite contradicting to the deep(emotional) conversations of women.
Women on the other hand prefers discussion over personal topics, vocalizing their feelings for each other. "emotions and displaying them are never ever a crime in woman's book" :)) I am not saying it(crime) is for males!!
Women describe their friendship in terms of closeness and emotional attachment. For them the willingness to share important feelings,thoughts,experiences as well as support ,characterise a friendship. Well I agree but ..."And these qualities are somehow not visible on the horizon in the interaction between men".Is it?
"Normally ,they (males) shy away from discussing illness with women as they don't want to appear physically vulnerable in front of the fairer sex." :o
Men talk to impart information conveying facts not details, are goal oriented and not very likely to seek help or direction .Women rather talk about people than things conveying feelings and details, relationship oriented(goal oriented too) and ever ready to accept help and directions.
Think patiently...is it true? It seems as if as far as conversations are concerned, they run parallel(never meets).
Women do personalise experiences expressing them emotionally...
As far as males are concerned a social phsychiatrist has something different to explain "In our culture ,men have grown up with stoic fathers who never cry or display any strong emotion.They have seen male members of the family always in control.So for them, being strong translates into not getting involved in any emotional discourse,leave alone demonstrating any emotion.This is probably why you will see that men are more comfortable talking to close female friends about deep personal issues. "
Anyway there are always exceptions!! Unconsidering the blabbers my highlighter ran through the main(general)conversation.
Hmmm....the most enigmatic enigma for men is women and for women is men.And for U? I hope it isn't my post :p:p:p
MEN and WOMAN. It's commonly heard that the former regards the latter by "It's difficult to understand woman". m sure the vice versa is true too. Well i am almost utterly aloofed from male counterpart having been a product of girls school, having no own brother and yes do have ' He' cousins but mainly younger ones :( Anyway I have had( in few months) my GK aggravated to some extent :p
A bit astray. All right coming to the point. You yourself eavesdrop on the conversation of men and that of woman. Yes, the two species are poles apart but are their conversations too??? What difference(s) can you spot? I spotted some(from article and from my limited access)...
Men develop closeness through shared interests and activities. They mainly tend to share financial, professional and physical worries with their male peers, talking about sexual issues etc. quite contradicting to the deep(emotional) conversations of women.
Women on the other hand prefers discussion over personal topics, vocalizing their feelings for each other. "emotions and displaying them are never ever a crime in woman's book" :)) I am not saying it(crime) is for males!!
Women describe their friendship in terms of closeness and emotional attachment. For them the willingness to share important feelings,thoughts,experiences as well as support ,characterise a friendship. Well I agree but ..."And these qualities are somehow not visible on the horizon in the interaction between men".Is it?
"Normally ,they (males) shy away from discussing illness with women as they don't want to appear physically vulnerable in front of the fairer sex." :o
Men talk to impart information conveying facts not details, are goal oriented and not very likely to seek help or direction .Women rather talk about people than things conveying feelings and details, relationship oriented(goal oriented too) and ever ready to accept help and directions.
Think patiently...is it true? It seems as if as far as conversations are concerned, they run parallel(never meets).
Women do personalise experiences expressing them emotionally...
As far as males are concerned a social phsychiatrist has something different to explain "In our culture ,men have grown up with stoic fathers who never cry or display any strong emotion.They have seen male members of the family always in control.So for them, being strong translates into not getting involved in any emotional discourse,leave alone demonstrating any emotion.This is probably why you will see that men are more comfortable talking to close female friends about deep personal issues. "
Anyway there are always exceptions!! Unconsidering the blabbers my highlighter ran through the main(general)conversation.
Hmmm....the most enigmatic enigma for men is women and for women is men.And for U? I hope it isn't my post :p:p:p
Comments
oye harkirat...u r bold!! ur font i mean :P
hmm..universal theory...but i guess this time u r astray! anyway
did i really mentioned that men are more beefed up than woman??..well the comparison between the two wud be unfair..
for ur nxt comment
i hate history!! and that simply an utter crap..
@ nitin
i understand your eagerness..coz yet again "she" is involved :P:P:P
very clever..no volunteers plz! may the flame of anticipation keep burning !! ;)
yet again you don't agree..then i'll include you in exceptions! btw...i knew it beforehand that u won't. your posts/emotional narration describes u!! well..it's good to be included in exceptions..bheer se upar raho ;)
deliberately cocooned because of the scary stares and reserved attitude of some..well it's difficult to judge guys really. excluding exceptions..some are real good ones no doubt but most...
yes they do take their own sweet time..but never really takes the initiative..
anyway as said i lack experience..can give a better reply two years hence :)
no..no..u carry on..i'd like know more of ur vichars(offensive) so m sure so wud the "she" readers
here :P
@ panna
kuch nahi hua..m 16 yaar! kya hua i haven't read MB..btw tumne abhi tak nahi bataya..
anyway..yes the two things i cannot face- boyz n darkness!! chaddo m very adjustable n will overcome that too! hum kisi se kam nahi :P
yah..it do take. but u know the tragedy wid me..arey i m isolated..still displayin emotions isn't a crime at all...n who dares to call girls emotional fool s!! :O :O
arey ..
hum hain(girls) toh jahan hai...
jahan hai toh sab hai...
warna kuch nahi..kuch bhi nahi :)
>:)..dangerous..yes!! don underestimate...
hehehehhahahaha :P:P:P
i knew i wud surprise u all..that's not typical me ..rite?
as par u ppl call a bore..dumbo etc :(
chaddo..u liked the change..then hold ur breath there's gonna lot more ;)
:o :o :o
lecture!!!
but it's a good timepass..no phayeda of gettin engaged in book all the time round..i hate that padhakoo tag(though i don have any!!)..bloggin is enjoyable yaar!
lagta hai kuch jyaada ho gaya
chalo neha ... aaj eid ke mauke par teri shikayat door kar hi deti hoon.....
Here's an interestin' ques10 ..... follow up...
Who chokes up at sappy movies ?
Who gets so swept away by excitement that they leap to their feet and hug strangers ?
Who falls apart when a relationship ends ?
The surprising answer is...
MEN!
Granted,the movie is likely 2b abt
cricket,te exuberance explodes in stadiums,& the break may b their idea.
men too r very emotional though v women r unable 2 understand them.
v r busy in our own chirpy world and men in their intellectual one(I hope..!)
Neha growin up...it seems!
keep it up.
as4 PANNA "this was the least u cud have done"...backing boyzzz!!
well, the camouflaging nature is more "manly" ...i feel. Men put on the mask of bein' rock solid while from inside they r as vulnerable as wax(telling fron experience).
[[and theres a lot more "dilki bhadaaas 4u]]
wht all u are sayin n wht do u acually mean!?! arey.. u confused me yaar..or rather tum khud confused ho. hahaha..
i mean kabhi kehte ho keep updating ur blog..kabhi stop it! xams ahead..n now sayin i m not sounding my real self...ah i m completely bizzared!!
listen..ab main samjhi y u chose mass com! yeah! jounalism suits u !! :)) (jus kiddin :P) i know u won't mind (leg pullin)
hey..gr8 to see u here finally :)
belated eid :)
rite. of course frequenting my blog n no posts..now no more shikayats :)
well for your questions i'd like men here (though limited) to answer :)
how can woman hug strangers(guys in particular)!?! :o
u mean women don't fall apart when relationships end!!
yes i never said that men aren't emotional..of course they are.
but i completely disagree - u mean only men(or their conversations) are intellectual !! :o :o
Am i really? ..wah!
aha poorva..u r experinced..good :P but supporting men! hame akela chod diya..no probs..waise m impartial :)
neha, as far as i remember u told me in our trip that u hated guys except 4 dravid......if m not wrong shayad tumhe kuch ho gaya hai......wow!! neha has bcome damn romantic...cool yaar!!! i luv romantic people...for god;s sake plz don run after my 42 wud bes.......just kiddin
jeeta jagta example??as in.. :O
@priya
take that..there's gonna more :P
'size of comments'..no prob wid that..but y ur's reduced :O
take it fast..i'd like to have more of your comments(whole hearted) :)
@ silky
:D :D :D
am i really??..oh..oh..never gave it a thought..sweetooo :P
ah..yes dravid has always been my choice...he is the perfect one wht to say!!
..anyway u don worry abt ur 42..that will be safe ;)u think me that kinda :P :P
luv see u comment here:)
...after big intervals :(
@smriti n panna
u ppl check out your comment on nitin's blog on "globalization..."
n restricting me to expliot mine's... :(
anyway.
i missed something important..
oh silky..that's pleasure to know u've got strong memo..yes i did say..i hate guys!!
but don't u see the changes(in me)?!!
"wooed by men"
yeah..TOI :D
oops!!
high temperature!
i'd choose to comment after mr. last czar ;)
do visit it once..I assure u'll receive a very warm welcome by some of my frnds who happen to b permanent/frequent patients thr;)
sorry I m late in replying..
waise "minding" is more closely associated with heart..which I can bet u've..a very clean,pure n innocent one(though bit naughty sometimes).
n as for "jiske paas mind nahi hai".. its just an effect of ur new company which is itself mindless;)
the boy(s) were here before ur advent ma`m ..and I`m sure neha certainly didn`t reserve this space for u Josephites [if m right] she has a rather global perspective on life..u`ve made it abso-blood-utely evident that u have a terribly poor experience with guys ..u started with czar and never moved to anybody else ..anyway, I`ll answer u word-for-a-word :
wat amazingly stupid world r u living in? I mean u think girls are just objects of desire/obsession for guys! Holy shit! I`m so freaky sorry for the 21st generation! Get some life girl ..the world out there knows opposite sexes make best friends ..do u hav any fucking idea why? Gawd! mirth/laughter ..absolutely misplaced adjectives!
I see ..its gud to be a feminist no doubt ..u r overboard ..if a man doesn`t cry out in a funeral means he`s timid to shed tears in public! Huh! Its in the stronger emotional buildup ma`m ..men are supposed to be pillars of the family or the society, hope u know that ..men take shelter with there moms/wives/female friends very privately ..its a disjoint field of activity, men simply are into different things than women ..how can u even brag about ur overdriven emotions at every unsuitable place ..talk of strong character!
all his life a guy would work for a single motive - to make it well @ work and then enjoi a happily married life, with a compatible life partner ..and the very worthy boys give more attention to there career and stuff ..this is no world of Princes and Dukes ..where without moving ur hands, u were branded worthy of the best brides ..crap!
do I take home that u shall remain celibate thruout ur life ..if that`s wat makes u complete! and u really need a check on ur spells .."but a man is not complete without a guy"!! ..agreed, a man pretty well realises the importance of a loving partner in his life ..u need someone to share ur life, ur joys, ur sorrows alike that`s wat makes it complete for him ..and vice-versa true ..don`t u get it that a man accepts a responsibility by taking a wife which he fulfills throughout his life ..ur theory wud suggest majority girls are forced into wedlock .."a women can run her own living but a man always fails to do that" ..unbelievable shit .."always"!!!
talk of religious books ..and u still don`t seem to get the point ..if women are placed above in every sphere of life, that simply shows there importance as a revered member of the society ..save for those humiliating sexual incidents that occur against women [the world is not perfect u see], u shd realise that women hav always been awarded a special place in our lives ..and what fool doesn`t respect women for the myriad roles they play in our lives? A man is a man, and he`s usually ur identity ..u look up to your man ..however egoist that sounds, it holds true ..u`ll realise that sooner lady!
don`t gimme a wrong image of ur place ..ask a Delhi male to sweep the house, and he`ll probably end up doing the cleaning+grocery+cooking etc stuff! ..again, get off this obsolete mindset ..heard of sthng like metro/uber-sexual man? Do a google search, and get ur fundas clear!
The mother of all crap been dished here - "men now have started beign self dependent"!!! And I thought it was the women who were increasingly breaking societal barriers, and reaching far and wide! Again U make me repeat it - yah ppl, every man does need a women ..big deal, huh!
What a way to stand on ur feet - flesh trade! oh probably u wanted to stress on the fact that women have been independent since ages - involving themselves in what is infamously the oldest profession in the world! How can u even state this thing in here!
Yeah ..u better be proud of being a women ..and make sure u make the female community proud as well! If u take pride in being wooed by men, first make urself worthy of it!
Asking a 21 year old male, u probably have no idea about, to visit a psychiatrist for his convictions [which surprisingly so many find aceptable], forms a highly condemnable act of arrogancy. I wonder if its an attitude problem or whatever. Just that miss apurwa, the basic level of education teaches u judicious use of words ..and the level of liberties u r supposed to take in conversation with people. U seem to have a huge misconception about the feebly-existent sexual bias! I just hope it gets cleared off the soonest possble!
PS: neha I`m so sorry for these words ..but I expected u to have cut the girl off before she would practically get to me this way! The last thing I wanted is a fight of words @ ur blog ..but some ppl refuse to understand that every fucking soul on this earth has got an opinion to give ..and it shud be goddamn respected ..anyway, pardon me for the strong words, but they were required ..I want no troubles later!
..time for me to comment
sorry..i hadn't yet noticed this..i thought it otherwise n was njoying all this(as follows)
//gals do talk abt boys , but they are simply an object of mirth laughter for them.
aha..really?? apurwa u r rude! oh! i haven't yet joined your conversations yet..!! thanks to my introversy :(
don be haughty and arrogant yaar. i did expect some 'different' comments but as such...nay. never.
i mean i was surprised to learn all this..! sorry to say-i request you to keep "flame of our skul burning"..this was the last thing i expected to tell to anywone..
at first i thought that was all fun ..but really your comment was infuriating!!
i'd support nitinsagar here..!!
plzz for god's sake...take up the positives. it's bad u hurt someone's sentiments. damn! how cud i take that lightly!!
oops..i appologize nitin from her's side.
and i request u not to carry on all this..and take up some +ves.
i shud expect that from u..should i? if u think i am ur friend thn u have to appologize to nitin..no..no u have to!!
....i wonder you'll erase myself from ur recent friends' list after this..if u do trust me i expect some sensible response from u!!
can change ur opinions abt me..i don care..but it's really disgusting to hurt yaar!
i am repenting-i took this so lighty :(
I m surprised yaar.....m naughty sometimes :O
but i agree with whatever u said next :D
@ neha
arre tere iss blog parr comments ke size to dekho:O
@ nitin
u wud be surprised to know that i completely agree with u this time!!!!!
but ur comment was really 4 times of neha's actual post!!!!
07 November, 2005
i c i sounded prtty agressive here!!
see i m not liking all this..and i hate indulgence in fights..be it through pen or swords!
i apologize to both of u..for what reason..i dunno!! but plzz..u ppl r putting me in trouble! see..i'd like u to make up..plz..somebody take the intiative:(
apurwa..tum nahi sudhrogi..yaar! have control plzz..i'd like no controversions here!!
sab meri galti hai :(
I SRONGLY COMMAND NO COMMENTS ON COMMENTS EXCEPT FOR ME!!
cool yaar..and forget it :((
i just could not stop myself from commenting at this place..........
@ harikat
u had the perfect comment....."IF EITHER OF MAN OR WOMAN IS STRONGER ........"....this is TRULY a universally true statement.
...hats off to UR perfect sense of thinking.........there is absolutely no point proving one's own sex to be better coz if nature is functioning properly it's b'coz of the balance between both the oposite sexes..........
@apurwa
i m sorry if i may sound rude to u now but yes it was truly harsh on ur part for having passed this hard comment....why......nobody is here to prove who's better ....it was supposed to be an attractive topic to attract some DIFFERENT comments ....but not this way.....i m sure that this was not what u had intended to say but as it is it surely has turned into something different.
@nitin
i totally agree with u.......and i admire the way u handled the situation ...just that it went a little too ahead....don't u think so?think practically i mean......neha as we all can see is feeling herself to be the culprit of this whole big lot of controversy which i think is not very apt........pls. patch up soon.......and believe me nitin and apurwa we guys can never understand what the other side is...it's a mystery about which we'll know only when it is time ... knowing about it or trying to know about it b4 hand is just going to kill the curiosity of all of us
but apurwa in this course i'll not stop myself from admiring u to have written this:
"but as far as gals are concerned they are more focused, and mostly have very storng characters......but a women has always been self independent"......u r a sweet n pratical girl otherwise.............patch up soon
and nitin :
"a man pretty well realises the importance of a loving partner in his life ..u need someone to share ur life, ur joys, ur sorrows alike that`s wat makes it complete for him ..and vice-versa true....... ..men take shelter with there moms/wives/female friends very privately .." these were great statements......true and practical.
pls. calm down both of u and make things better again ....... and as harikat said this is a beautiful article ......let it not turn this bitter..........
I agree with most of what Nitin has said. I will acknowledge that the first(and often the only) thing I look for in a girl is physical attractiveness. However, this is just my shallow perspective and quite a few men don't think that way. And even if they do, I fail to see the harm in it. The only thing that matters is not what you think but what you do. Most men are very civil and courteous to women. One of the most important things in life for a man is to have a loving spouse and he will go to great lengths towards that end. Apurwa, do you think men are dependent on women for their house-keeping? Let me assure you that is not the case. Men are dependent emotionally on their wives/gf. Every man longs for a feminine presence in his life to make him feel loved and wanted(atleast I think so). It might be considered a weakness, but if the capacity to love and respond to it is a weakness then I would rather that I had this weakness than do without it. Perhaps instead of passing judgement on the opposite sex we should try to understand it.
yes.my blog needs rest as well..n needs to cool down... thus with the onset of winter i have decided to hibernate!!
@nitin
finally u've overcome ur kiddish behavior :P
kiddin n plz don misapprehend this!!
aha..i m feeling so halka halka..hurray!
chalo..everybody back to work..!!
apurwa..hamari differences have been cleared :)
chalo..everybody back to work..!!